You also get a two year warranty on it.Home › Quartz Crystals › Amethyst Crystal › It's smaller, user friendly, and costs about $60 or so (street price) less than a PCV. The FI Micro Programmer is the way to go. It's always possible to see additional improvments with Timing, but it will be surprising if it does. That being said, when we get the bike and production systems to Fuelmoto for additional map R&D, and to also test the airbox delete mod, they will also be checking timing adjustments on a PCV. We've seen excellent increases across the board with A/F mapping. So there is the "assuming" the 300 will be similar in that regard. When Dynojet adjusted timing on the euro 250I version, they did not note any significant changes. We just don't see huge differences when adjusting timing in most cases, along with the potential consequences noted. Do you think the Power Command V with ignition controls will provide a little more torque if you advance the timing? Otherwise I will do the micro fuel moto?Īs stated in post (90), we really just stick with just A/F mapping. As this is what I have on my custom fuel injection Ninja 250R. I will want to get the pod filters as well. This is where that delicate balance is of what we see on the Dyno, to what actually occurs on the race track. We can take more chances and experiment more simply because we accept that we will be taking engines apart frequently to diagnose the results of our experimenting and the riders’ abuse of it. But this also depends on so many things as well how the rider utilizes the throttle, is he off/on, smooth, etc., and how long at full load/WOT. That being said - on a Racebike, it's common that we may/will adjust the timing based on the compression, fuel being used (unleaded, leaded, oxygen content, octane, etc.) and so on, before we attempt to really get the baseline FI mapping we create to yield the optimum power output. We want to assure maximum reliability and longevity on street bikes. So we focus on A/F mapping in most cases, which will be based on the oem/stock ignition curve. It can also have a really obvious effect on performance in the wrong tuners hands. Excessive timing can be the most frequent cause of detonation, which makes bad things happen to your engine (like when you start seeing aluminum speckles on your spark plugs.). It simply opens up too many possible bad scenarios of tune. We normally stay away from altering timing on most modern street bike/street driven applications. We experiment all the time with our WRX/STI & EVO Turbo kits, but we also incorporate water and/or methanol injection into the equation as well. But yes, in your particular example with a K-series car engine, there are benefits to be had as well. Answering his particular question as based on a fuel/octane rating. It's really a combination of many things, including the stock compression ratio. Is it because the ign advance is already so high on these motors? With the K series engines (car engine) we see good power increases from higher ign which requires the higher oct to fight detonation. Running anything higher is simply a waste of fuel and money. Using 87 octane will likely produce the best power in this example. That being said, it is very common to produce less power when running higher octane fuels than the engine tune is set up for. The short answer is - No, there will not be a different map related to your specific example. Does having a higher octane level mean there is a possibility for a better map? Will area P be making a map for 98octane fuel? Or is the slight octane difference not enough to have an impact on the tune? I live in Australia and our premium fuel here is 98 octane versus premium in the us being 92 octane. Hey guys I have a pretty limited knowledge of fuels and tuning but But for Low Octane, High Oxygen content Race Fuels - yes, those maps will be part of the program as continuous maps are developed over time.īelow are some quotes from questions/answers in our Area P Exhaust Thread that may be of help. That being said, it is doubtful that we would adjust the A/F curve for fuel between 87 - 93 octane. No we do not adjust timing with our FI Micro Programmer. K briant, dose your tuner allow for timing curve adjustments? If not on the tuner do your custom tunes change the timing curve/advance? IE can I get an 87 tune and a 93 or even race gas tune with more timing for more power.
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